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[转贴] 新恐龙 Black76 & White2A 与 硬件1176 & LA - 2A 对决测试 !

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#1 11-6-5 18:42

新恐龙 Black76 & White2A 与 硬件1176 & LA - 2A 对决测试 !

本文转帖老外论坛试 为重现原味 恐未尽原汁 故不代译

This test compares the new IK Black76 and White2A vs a hardware
Teletronix LA-2A (original) and hardware UA 1176 (reissue) on heavy gain reduction settings.

Test 1: Black76 vs UA 1176 Vocal

Notes: We use a Lynx Aurora A/D/A. Therefore, we first ran the vocal first out the D/A and back into the A/D
of the Aurora so it would mimmick the trip taken to go into the hardware and make the test as fair as possible.

This is the setting used on the hardware 1176 :



We matched the ratio, attack, release, and input settings on the Black76, but then reduced gain to level match:



Vocal Original:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/voxoriginal.wav

Vocal Hardware 1176:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/vox1176.wav

Vocal Black76:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/voxb76match.wav

However, for reasons we could not determine, there was MUCH less gain reduction with the IK plugin.
Therefore, we tried to match the gain reduction as close by ear, and we ended up with this setting:




Here is the IK Black76 on the vocal with these settings used to match the amount of GR of the Hardware:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/voxb76ear.wav

Here is a mono drum loop.. again we printed this through
the Lynx D/A/D so that it would travel the same path as the hardware path.


Setting of the UA 1176 Hardware:



and here is the IK Black76 with everything matched as close as possible, except gain matched:



Original Drum Loop:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/drumsoriginal.wav

Hardware 1176:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/drums1176.wav

IK Black76:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/drumsb76match.wav

Once again, for reasons we could not figure out, the gain reduction was much less, so to make it more fair,
we altered the input gain of the Black76 so that it was compressing the same amount as the hardware so these were the new settings:




IK Black76 on the above setting, to match GR of Hardware:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/drumsb76ears.wav

Now the Teletronix LA-2A vs the White 2A on vocals:
LA-2A Setting:



and here is the setting used on the IK White2A:



Original Vocal:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/voxoriginal.wav

Hardware LA-2A:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/voxLA2.wav

IK White 2A:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/voxw2.wav

Note: For the White2A, the amount of gain reduction was not varied like that of the the 1176 vs the Black76
so we did not have to do another pass.


Drum Loop Hardware LA-2A Setting:



Drum Loop White 2A Setting:



Original Drum Loop:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/drumsoriginal.wav

Hardware LA-2A:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/drumsLA2.wav

IK White 2A:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/drumsw2.wav

* 仅测试 对决结果自行判断 *

文章來源 : http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-shoot-outs-sound-file-comparisons-audio-tests/617838-ik-black76-white2a-vs-hardware-1176-la-2a.html#post6709219

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#2 11-6-5 18:54
新恐龙 这次很给力

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#3 11-6-5 20:23
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#5 11-6-5 21:03
谢腰哥!

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#6 11-6-5 21:36
我感觉可能是参数没有吻合,差别有些大,但是我还是比较喜欢硬件的那种自然到位的感觉

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#8 11-6-5 22:09
阔气  气派

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#9 11-6-6 04:04
果然跟 硬件 差别很大 ~~

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#10 11-6-6 07:32
大家可能没太注意老外说的,真假1176在相同参数下声音会不一样(红字部分)
Once again, for reasons we could not figure out, the gain reduction was much less, so to make it more fair,
we altered the input gain of the Black76 so that it was compressing the same amount as the hardware so these were the new settings:



所以他根据听感重新调整过软件参数(其实就只动了input gain)的对比文件在第四张图片下面。

Here is the IK Black76 on the vocal with these settings used to match the amount of GR of the Hardware:
http://www.stevenslate.com/compare/voxb76ear.wav


尽管还是稍有些区别,但跟硬件的已经有百分之九十以上的相像度了,在不通过直接对比的情况下,基本可以乱真。

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#11 11-6-6 07:59
原帖沙人 于 11-6-6 07:32 发表
大家可能没太注意老外说的,真假1176在相同参数下声音会不一样(红字部分)
Once again, for reasons we could not figure out, the gain reduction was much less, so to make it more fair,
we altered the inpu ...


这个测试是由 Slate Digital板岩压缩)所做 其动机耐人寻味

[ 本帖最后由 狗公腰 于 11-6-6 08:58 编辑 ]
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#12 11-6-6 09:15
无所谓啦。。。

换了64位之后一直不能用假UAD

现在好了,有代替品了,挺好用的。。。。

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#13 11-6-6 12:04
虽然有区别,但是也很牛掰了~!

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#14 11-6-6 18:56
果然如腰哥所说,耐人寻味了

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#15 11-6-6 21:25
听DOME 还是差别蛮大的 不过不知道有没有其他的原因 呵呵 ~~ 怎么说呢 亲自用才能有所了解 ~
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