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原帖由 Ying 于 2006-4-19 08:51 发表
LIVE CD
是不是就叫这个名字?如果是这个名字就好找了~
全名是 "Lon Bronson All-Star Band LIVE ( Live from the Golden Nugget)"
原帖由 Ying 于 2006-4-19 10:24 发表
HOHO,对,你说的都很重要.
对了,看见过类似这个的东西吗?
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/erme.aspx
混了出來的可能要戴上這東西才好聽!
[ 本帖最后由 himhui 于 2006-4-19 11:08 编辑 ]
看看bob首次預演的分享..................
Here's a fun story I thought I would share.
The Lon Bronson All Star Horn Band has been in Vegas for as long as I can remember. Used to be one of my favorite late night escapades out into the Las Vegas music scene. Tower Of Power, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears... this was the kind of music they energized the room with.
我記得 The Lon Bronson All Star Horn Band 在 LA (LA VEGAS)已好一段頗長時間了, 他們曾經是我在 LA 夜生活中的致愛。Tower Of Power, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears....他們就是用這歌曲的能量將房間充滿著。
Lon called me a few weeks ago to discuss the possibilities of doing a live CD with the band at the Golden Nugget in downtown Las Vegas, where they are now performing. Their bass player, Keith Nelson, my good friend from the Steven Lee Group, offered up his new ProStar laptop and rack of Behringer ADA-8000s for a test run to see what we could do without any complex arrangements of recording trucks, crews, snake runs, power distro, etc.
數星期前 Lon 打電話給我商量有關在 Las Vegas 的 Golden Nugget 錄製現場專輯是否可行。他們的bass手 Kieth 也是我的好朋友, 亦是steven lee group 的 bass 手, 提供了他新的 Prostar 筆記薄 和 ada8000, 看能否在無需複雜的設備和最少的人力下完成這項工作。
Curtain time was 12 midnight on a saturday night... I showed up at 10:45 pm and walked onto the stage for the first time. Unpacked the laptop, which I had setup a few months back for Keith.
We found a road case in a backstage corner and two chairs. Lon had arranged with the house sound, to have a mic split backstage. This way, I would get straight mic signals without depending on console inserts and trims and without having to interfere in any way with the house mix and normal sound operations.
當天表演時間為星期六午夜12:00, 我10:45到場,首次踏足上台。Lon 安排了前台的聲音, 將 mic 分到後台。這樣我便可無須依靠console而直接取得訊號 , 亦不會妨礙前台的聲音。
I took the first 24 lines of a normal 30+ inputs. I gave up individual conga and perccussion mics and went with one overhead. When we do the gig for real, I will use 2 laptops and about 40 inputs, counting audience mics.
我先用 24 個通道 以 30+ 輸入, 效棄了 conga 和 perccusion 的獨立話筒, 取而代之是一個"overhead"。到真正錄音時, 我將會用 2 部 筆記薄 和 40個 輸入, 包括收錄觀眾席的話筒。
I had never used the Behringers on a gig and had no idea what the mic sensitivity was like and whether the pres could take the power of a Tower Of Power punching horn section without splatting... but we were about to find out.
我從來沒有用過 ada8000 在電腦上錄音 (當時bob還未用上), 也不知道它的敏感度如何, 能否承受 horn section 在館內演奏" Power of Tower" 時的急速力量而造成不良的連續反射效果, 我們很快便有答案...。
If you have been like many of us, wondering how good could this stuff be for $230 US for 8 phantom powered mic/line inputs to ADAT lightpipe, stay tuned for some enlightening results.
假如你也曾經像我們這樣想: "一個價值只有 usd 230 (現在應該更低) 擁有 8 通道、幻象電源、話放兼 adat 輸入 究竟會有多好? ", 一會兒便可有很啟發性的結論。
[ 本帖最后由 himhui 于 2006-4-20 10:44 编辑 ]
Here's a fun story I thought I would share.
The Lon Bronson All Star Horn Band has been in Vegas for as long as I can remember. Used to be one of my favorite late night escapades out into the Las Vegas music scene. Tower Of Power, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears... this was the kind of music they energized the room with.
我記得 The Lon Bronson All Star Horn Band 在 LA (LA VEGAS)已好一段頗長時間了, 他們曾經是我在 LA 夜生活中的致愛。Tower Of Power, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears....他們就是用這歌曲的能量將房間充滿著。
Lon called me a few weeks ago to discuss the possibilities of doing a live CD with the band at the Golden Nugget in downtown Las Vegas, where they are now performing. Their bass player, Keith Nelson, my good friend from the Steven Lee Group, offered up his new ProStar laptop and rack of Behringer ADA-8000s for a test run to see what we could do without any complex arrangements of recording trucks, crews, snake runs, power distro, etc.
數星期前 Lon 打電話給我商量有關在 Las Vegas 的 Golden Nugget 錄製現場專輯是否可行。他們的bass手 Kieth 也是我的好朋友, 亦是steven lee group 的 bass 手, 提供了他新的 Prostar 筆記薄 和 ada8000, 看能否在無需複雜的設備和最少的人力下完成這項工作。
Curtain time was 12 midnight on a saturday night... I showed up at 10:45 pm and walked onto the stage for the first time. Unpacked the laptop, which I had setup a few months back for Keith.
We found a road case in a backstage corner and two chairs. Lon had arranged with the house sound, to have a mic split backstage. This way, I would get straight mic signals without depending on console inserts and trims and without having to interfere in any way with the house mix and normal sound operations.
當天表演時間為星期六午夜12:00, 我10:45到場,首次踏足上台。Lon 安排了前台的聲音, 將 mic 分到後台。這樣我便可無須依靠console而直接取得訊號 , 亦不會妨礙前台的聲音。
I took the first 24 lines of a normal 30+ inputs. I gave up individual conga and perccussion mics and went with one overhead. When we do the gig for real, I will use 2 laptops and about 40 inputs, counting audience mics.
我先用 24 個通道 以 30+ 輸入, 效棄了 conga 和 perccusion 的獨立話筒, 取而代之是一個"overhead"。到真正錄音時, 我將會用 2 部 筆記薄 和 40個 輸入, 包括收錄觀眾席的話筒。
I had never used the Behringers on a gig and had no idea what the mic sensitivity was like and whether the pres could take the power of a Tower Of Power punching horn section without splatting... but we were about to find out.
我從來沒有用過 ada8000 在電腦上錄音 (當時bob還未用上), 也不知道它的敏感度如何, 能否承受 horn section 在館內演奏" Power of Tower" 時的急速力量而造成不良的連續反射效果, 我們很快便有答案...。
If you have been like many of us, wondering how good could this stuff be for $230 US for 8 phantom powered mic/line inputs to ADAT lightpipe, stay tuned for some enlightening results.
假如你也曾經像我們這樣想: "一個價值只有 usd 230 (現在應該更低
) 擁有 8 通道、幻象電源、話放兼 adat 輸入 究竟會有多好? ", 一會兒便可有很啟發性的結論。[ 本帖最后由 himhui 于 2006-4-20 10:44 编辑 ]
The laptop was using an RME CardBus into a DigiFace... hooked to the 3 Behringers for 24 i/o. I used the RME as the master clock and had all the Behringers chase the optical.
The mic cables fed directly to the Behringer pres right from the mic split backstage. No input console... fun stuff for me.
筆記薄以 RME Cardbus接 Digiface 以 光纖連著3個 ada8000 共 24 個 i/o, RME作 主時鐘 (master clock)。話筒線沒有經console直接插進 ada8000 的話放接口........這樣做我覺得很有趣。
I used the RME TotalMix for monitoring, direct to the headphone out jack on the DigiFace. Believe it or not, I was sitting just offstage to this T of P horn band and still had enough output without even a headphone distro unit... I was amazed... although, next time I think I will bring one for a bit more gain and the ability to share the mix with others without having to pass my headphones around.
我用RME 的 TOTALMIX 作監聽, 直接把 耳機 接到 digiface. 信不信由你, 我仍有足夠的輸出, 下次可以預備多一個耳機, 不再須要將我的耳機傳來傳去。
I set all Behringer mic trims to 12 oclock, having no idea what would happen. No sound check... in fact I never set foot onstage... never adjusted one mic... what we got is the stright live room micing and positioning from the mic split... and we are not talking studio quality mics here... we are talking hotel showroom Shure 58s and the typical compliment of stage mics.
我將 ada8000 的輸入全調至 12點鐘位置, 因為沒有聲音測試, 故不知道會發生什麼事情, 也沒有機會調校話筒的聲音, 因為是前台直接分出來的........所用的話筒當然不是棚裡高質素的那種, 而是酒店宴會廳用的 Shure 58 和一些典型舞台的輔助話筒。
I setup a session folder and lined up my 24 record meters... created a template in case of a crash and the need for a quick recovery and waited for the downbeat.... the whole setup was just a little over an hour. The downbeat came and my meters all lit up to the max... whoa... we are talking some nice gain on these things... by the end of the first song, trims have all been adjusted and I just let it rip.
我在SAW建立一個 SESSION, 排好了24軌的錄音表板, 同時將這錄音設置儲存, 以便當電腦出現問題時候可馬上還原, 現在就等開始的第一下的聲音出現了........(整個設置花了一個小時多點)。 聲響終於來臨, 表板全都亮著到最高位置, (是正面的) 。當第一首歌快將完結的同時, 音量也調校好了。
Recorded 24 mono files at 44100, 16 bit... about 1 hour and 10 mins worth... took a total of only about 8 gigs... that was nice.
Within minutes of the end of the set, I had a basic mix with some panning, eq, compression and some reverb sends for the vocals and horns (gotta love that virtual console ) and started passing the headphones around to the band members. Needless to say, we were all pretty happy with the test results.
花了1個小時10分鐘, 錄了24軌 單聲道/16bit 44.1khz, 共用了硬盤 8 gig 空間。
到了錄音過程最後的幾分鐘, 我已調好基本位置, eq , 壓縮 和 將混響發送到人聲和 horn, 也給樂隊其他成員收聽, 當然, 我們都非常滿意出來的測試效果。
I extracted a few of the songs from the hour long session and then spent about 2 hours setting up a decent mix of one of my favorite old Tower Of Power tunes that the band does really well. I placed an mp3 link here to share the experience with you. This mix has not been cleaned as far as taking out background open mics and ambience noise... this is straight solid 24 tracks... 6 open horn mics and 5 open vocal mics leakinmg away through the whole mix... but it is quite fun to hear what can be done with a laptop and a few Behringers and of course, the RME card.
在這個多小時測試, 我導出其中幾首歌曲, 花了近兩小時為這個我喜歡的音樂(樂隊表現亦非常好) 作了一個較細緻的混音, 我放了個mp3連接給大家分享(已經不在)。這個混音仍未清除背景和環境噪音, 還有6個話筒給horn 和 5個mic給歌者 的漏聲全程陪伴著.......不過, 能夠用筆記薄、ada8000, 當然還有 RME卡去完成這工作, 確是有趣。
Can't wait for the real deal with a few good solo and vocal mics and the chance to spend some time editing, cleaning and mixing this stuff. This is good, fun music that I don't get to hear much of any more these days... I'm excited to be part of the project.
真急不及待能和這樣好的樂手、歌手合作的日子來臨, 亦希望能花點時間為這表演正式混音去。很久沒有聽過這類那麼好的音樂了, 個人亦非常興奮能參與其中。
[ 本帖最后由 himhui 于 2006-4-20 10:45 编辑 ]
The mic cables fed directly to the Behringer pres right from the mic split backstage. No input console... fun stuff for me.
筆記薄以 RME Cardbus接 Digiface 以 光纖連著3個 ada8000 共 24 個 i/o, RME作 主時鐘 (master clock)。話筒線沒有經console直接插進 ada8000 的話放接口........這樣做我覺得很有趣。
I used the RME TotalMix for monitoring, direct to the headphone out jack on the DigiFace. Believe it or not, I was sitting just offstage to this T of P horn band and still had enough output without even a headphone distro unit... I was amazed... although, next time I think I will bring one for a bit more gain and the ability to share the mix with others without having to pass my headphones around.
我用RME 的 TOTALMIX 作監聽, 直接把 耳機 接到 digiface. 信不信由你, 我仍有足夠的輸出, 下次可以預備多一個耳機, 不再須要將我的耳機傳來傳去。
I set all Behringer mic trims to 12 oclock, having no idea what would happen. No sound check... in fact I never set foot onstage... never adjusted one mic... what we got is the stright live room micing and positioning from the mic split... and we are not talking studio quality mics here... we are talking hotel showroom Shure 58s and the typical compliment of stage mics.
我將 ada8000 的輸入全調至 12點鐘位置, 因為沒有聲音測試, 故不知道會發生什麼事情, 也沒有機會調校話筒的聲音, 因為是前台直接分出來的........所用的話筒當然不是棚裡高質素的那種, 而是酒店宴會廳用的 Shure 58 和一些典型舞台的輔助話筒。
I setup a session folder and lined up my 24 record meters... created a template in case of a crash and the need for a quick recovery and waited for the downbeat.... the whole setup was just a little over an hour. The downbeat came and my meters all lit up to the max... whoa... we are talking some nice gain on these things... by the end of the first song, trims have all been adjusted and I just let it rip.
我在SAW建立一個 SESSION, 排好了24軌的錄音表板, 同時將這錄音設置儲存, 以便當電腦出現問題時候可馬上還原, 現在就等開始的第一下的聲音出現了........(整個設置花了一個小時多點)。 聲響終於來臨, 表板全都亮著到最高位置, (是正面的) 。當第一首歌快將完結的同時, 音量也調校好了。
Recorded 24 mono files at 44100, 16 bit... about 1 hour and 10 mins worth... took a total of only about 8 gigs... that was nice.
Within minutes of the end of the set, I had a basic mix with some panning, eq, compression and some reverb sends for the vocals and horns (gotta love that virtual console ) and started passing the headphones around to the band members. Needless to say, we were all pretty happy with the test results.
花了1個小時10分鐘, 錄了24軌 單聲道/16bit 44.1khz, 共用了硬盤 8 gig 空間。
到了錄音過程最後的幾分鐘, 我已調好基本位置, eq , 壓縮 和 將混響發送到人聲和 horn, 也給樂隊其他成員收聽, 當然, 我們都非常滿意出來的測試效果。
I extracted a few of the songs from the hour long session and then spent about 2 hours setting up a decent mix of one of my favorite old Tower Of Power tunes that the band does really well. I placed an mp3 link here to share the experience with you. This mix has not been cleaned as far as taking out background open mics and ambience noise... this is straight solid 24 tracks... 6 open horn mics and 5 open vocal mics leakinmg away through the whole mix... but it is quite fun to hear what can be done with a laptop and a few Behringers and of course, the RME card.
在這個多小時測試, 我導出其中幾首歌曲, 花了近兩小時為這個我喜歡的音樂(樂隊表現亦非常好) 作了一個較細緻的混音, 我放了個mp3連接給大家分享(已經不在)。這個混音仍未清除背景和環境噪音, 還有6個話筒給horn 和 5個mic給歌者 的漏聲全程陪伴著.......不過, 能夠用筆記薄、ada8000, 當然還有 RME卡去完成這工作, 確是有趣。
Can't wait for the real deal with a few good solo and vocal mics and the chance to spend some time editing, cleaning and mixing this stuff. This is good, fun music that I don't get to hear much of any more these days... I'm excited to be part of the project.
真急不及待能和這樣好的樂手、歌手合作的日子來臨, 亦希望能花點時間為這表演正式混音去。很久沒有聽過這類那麼好的音樂了, 個人亦非常興奮能參與其中。
[ 本帖最后由 himhui 于 2006-4-20 10:45 编辑 ]